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In this episode, we will explore critical
emerging sustainability concerns for boards

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over the next 1 to 2 years and how they can
address, prepare and lead the way.

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Well, first of all, join a chapter um if you're
not already a member of one of the,

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the regional chapters uh of the climate
governance initiative,

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that is my my first recommendation.

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And secondly, um you know, uh stay curious
about this issue.

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It's a fast moving one.
It's something that we all need to be humble

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about.
Uh And I think coming into the board

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cultivating a an open open minded um sort of
culture in the

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boardroom.
Um I think it is incredibly important uh as we

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think about this transition as, as just that as
managing change really.

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Uh And so keeping a very open mind, I think is,
is, is critical.

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And then I think it's also about um again,
moving from thinking about this as a

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transactional question to one which could
potentially have a systemic impact.

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So it's really thinking um bigger than just
your own organization.

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But also what impact can our decisions have on
some of the key stakeholders on our value

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chains.
If I look to the future, I expect a continued

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attention for mitigation and the right,
hopefully harmonized reporting of that.

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That's one.
Secondly, I expect much more attention than

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today on adaptation because we are not at the
Paris Treaty uh trajectory,

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we will not be totally below 1.5 degrees.
So we will have to deal with climate change.

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Also, I don't throw the towel in the ring.
I think we need to continue with mitigation,

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but in parallel working on adaptation as well.

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The third topic is climate finance, uh all
those things need to be financed.

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And therefore, as I mentioned before, uh carbon
pricing, both the compliance market and the

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voluntary carbon market could be a very uh good
tool uh to

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finance uh the transitions because we need to
think not only about the transition itself but

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also how to finance it and this triggers a
further stronger private public uh

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collaboration. Yeah.
And the last thing I want to,

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to, to mention, which I think will become high
on the agenda is nature itself is

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biodiversity, is integrity, but also the just
transition,

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I think um maybe 33 topics.
Number one, I think they should very much make

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sure that they have a proper reporting in their
company in place.

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So I think what we have now is as the biggest
change you don't look into ESG

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relevant data once a year, it is becoming more
of a continued quarterly reporting and it

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should be ultimately baked into your, er, p
systems to just have the data availability

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just throughout the year and not only as said,
two months after your balance sheet date.

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So that's a, that's a very, um, yeah, classical
administrative housekeeping,

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but it's important because many Corporates
don't have that yet for natural reasons.

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Number two, I think you need to really
understand how does it all affect my business

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model and where, where are maybe especially on
the customer side,

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whether you have corporate customers or
institutional customers or maybe private

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customers.
What and how do the the needs of customers

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change?
What do they need in, in the next years?

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Maybe they need solutions for their own carbon
dioxide emission reduction or maybe they have

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um some research and development going on which
brings them into different activities.

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Maybe they, they need different things from our
company.

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So I think that's a super important topic
because ultimately that will drive your,

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your sales possibilities and your revenues
dramatically.

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And then obviously, um also you need to
understand what about your people?

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Um You have talent, hopefully in your cooper
operation, what does change there?

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Do you need different talent with different
capabilities, different expertise,

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same as you need it in the board, you probably
need it also in your,

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in the group of your employees.
And last, but definitely not least what,

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what changes in the life of your employees,
your talent two words,

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catch up, catch up with the rest of the world
and do it quickly and

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efficiently, uh waste no time whatsoever.
So it is

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astounding to me that companies headquartered
in the United States that

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nevertheless have products and uh physical uh

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facilities around the world are not looking to
Europe and other

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places and saying, well, my goodness sakes, why
are we not doing the same exact thing

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in the United States?

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Well, in terms of what's coming next, I do
think there would be a lot more focus on nature,

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a lot more focus on biodiversity.
Um And we need a lot of education on that

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because that is again sort of very much
emerging.

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And um you know, I think getting up to speed
and in terms of,

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you know, what should we be focusing on there,
I think is important,

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you know, at the, at the more nitty gritty
level, like what we already talked about in

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terms of regulation, like that's gonna be,
that's going to be a lot of work and a lot of

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focus in the next little while.
Um you know,

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we've got a couple of years, but as I said, we
need systems processes,

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technology to make sure that we're producing
timely but accurate information

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and there's there's work to be done on that.

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So like when you're making investments, you
know, we have capital allocation frameworks for,

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for many organizations and building in sort of
the the cost of,

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of, you know, decarbonization emissions, et
cetera should be very clearly part of that

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capital allocation decisions.
But even then,

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you know, we need to make investments that meet
our hurdles.

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You know, like that's why, that's why we have
uh the stewardship roles that we do.

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We have to meet the, the expectations of our
investors.

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And one of the main ways of doing that is to,
to make,

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you know, good investments that provide the
right returns while thinking about,

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you know, the costs of um uh basically um
reducing our

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impact on the, on the, on the earth.
I think that doing really good transition

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planning that caters for resilience and net
zero um and

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embraces nature and water and, you know, a just
approach that we've got a great opportunity

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here because we're, we're in, we're looking at
those different um interdependent

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aspects of environment and community and
society.

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Um And we're looking at it just at the point
where companies are really just beginning to

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start to get to grips with their transition
plans.

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So actually a, a really important part of this
is being able to share,

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share, good practice, learn, we produce in our
network and,

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you know, it's all published on our website,
both the Chapter 01 and the CG I one.

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Um lots of briefings for, for boards which are
not, you know,

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the whole report, but they're the bits that are
important that the board directors need to have,

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we've got these tool kits which um, which cover
a lot of the things that,

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um, I've been discussing um today, a lot of the
aspects of how committees should

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work, how, how you do your planning, how you
assess where your board is on the journey.

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Um And then that leads to, well, if we're not
in that,

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in a very good place on that particular aspect,
then there are all these briefings and,

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and extra information we can, we can uh look at
to help us.

